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Us vs Them – Why??

Mar - 28 - 2006
Nicole C. Engard

It makes me sad. Well it makes me angry first, but then when that passes I’m sad. I was debating whether to say anything or not – considering how upset my last (seemingly innocent) post made people, but no one is in the library yet – so I only have you guys to share with.

Steven has a post on Library Stuff titled Back To Boolean? A Call to…Goodness Sake! – seemingly harmless title right? I just read through all of the comments on this post (which by the way are in reverse chronological order – if you’re like me and started reading at the top only to find you have no idea what people are talking about :) ) and that’s what made me sad.

There is such a us versus them mentality when it comes to Library 2.0 topics. Sarah from LibrarianInBlack comments:

You have created an “us vs. them” where there is no us or them, just a bunch of library folks trying to make things better for our users. That’s what we’re all after.

and

You talk about “sides” to Library 2.0. There shouldn’t be sides. There are some great ideas in Library 2.0. Take what you can from it, but don’t unnecessarily turn it into a polarizing issue.

Now, I have no idea when this mentality started – or who might have started it – but the sentiment is what I want to get across. Why are we arguing? Why are we nitpicking? Like Meredith says:

I’m sick of bloggers attacking people over 1 little tiny word they said while ignoring their actual message.

It makes me wish that a name was never given to these ideas. Because like Amanda Etches-Johnson pointed out in her presentation at the DigiTech forum at CIL these ideas have been around for ages – I think the oldest quote she showed us was from 1995 (I may be wrong) – so all we’ve done is take these ideas, lump them together and give them a name and now we’re split down the middle.

Anyone here watch Gilmore Girls? (no I’m not going off topic – bear with me here) I feel like the townspeople when Like Luke & Lorelai broke up – some of us should be wearing blue ribbons and the rest pink ribbons – that way we know who’s on what side and we don’t have to talk to each other. Maybe that’s extreme, but it’s that same sort of frustration and fear of upsetting someone that makes me so upset (sad upset – not mad upset).

Postscript: Now – to the people who are upset with me (although that was not my intent) please be aware that my spam blocker stops all comments – it is not a reflection on my feelings about what you have to say – I will approve all comments in good time.

10 Responses so far.

  1. Amanda says:

    Hi Nicole – for the record, the earliest technology plan I used at Dead Tech was published in 1997. Not that it matters, of course, because I think you’re right — the point here is that we’ve been talking about being better and more user-centred for a very long time. It just so happens that now there are some neat, easy, free web tools to help us do that online!

  2. Amanda says:

    Hi Nicole – for the record, the earliest technology plan I used at Dead Tech was published in 1997. Not that it matters, of course, because I think you’re right — the point here is that we’ve been talking about being better and more user-centred for a very long time. It just so happens that now there are some neat, easy, free web tools to help us do that online!

  3. Dave Hook says:

    You are so right, Nicole! The biblioblogosphere is starting to look a lot like Stars Hollow – at least from the comments on that post. Maybe we’re all taking this whole L2 debate WAY too seriously.

    Call it Library 2.0, call it what you want, or don’t call it anything at all. At the end of the day, we all have the same goal – to make libraries better – and we’re all in this together.

    P.S. Gilmore Girls is a repeat tonight. It’s been like what, a month since they’ve had a new show?

  4. Dave Hook says:

    You are so right, Nicole! The biblioblogosphere is starting to look a lot like Stars Hollow – at least from the comments on that post. Maybe we’re all taking this whole L2 debate WAY too seriously.

    Call it Library 2.0, call it what you want, or don’t call it anything at all. At the end of the day, we all have the same goal – to make libraries better – and we’re all in this together.

    P.S. Gilmore Girls is a repeat tonight. It’s been like what, a month since they’ve had a new show?

  5. elfie says:

    Nitpick – Luke and Lorelai. heh. Great example, though. :)

  6. elfie says:

    Nitpick – Luke and Lorelai. heh. Great example, though. :)

  7. Nicole says:

    LOL – So glad people understood my comparison – I miss my new Gilmore Girls – but there have been 2 episodes last Tues and this Tues so I think they’re gearing up for some new ones :)

  8. Nicole says:

    LOL – So glad people understood my comparison – I miss my new Gilmore Girls – but there have been 2 episodes last Tues and this Tues so I think they’re gearing up for some new ones :)

  9. walt says:

    I think that post requires a firm response.

    Namely, they darn well better start showing new Gilmore Girls episodes pretty soon.

    We’ve been completing our catchup of early seasons while repeats run. We’re now at the overlap point (mid-fourth season, when we started watching). Time to get confused again between Rory’s first year at Yale and Rory’s current visit to academia.

  10. walt says:

    I think that post requires a firm response.

    Namely, they darn well better start showing new Gilmore Girls episodes pretty soon.

    We’ve been completing our catchup of early seasons while repeats run. We’re now at the overlap point (mid-fourth season, when we started watching). Time to get confused again between Rory’s first year at Yale and Rory’s current visit to academia.


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