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	<title>Comments on: Cataloging for the Users</title>
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	<description>Web 2.0 and programming tips from a library technology enthusiast, What I Learned Today... covers blogs, rss, wikis and more as they relate to libraries.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/1287#comment-64924</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If catalogers want to start adding tags now, there is a MARC field, the 653 field, that would work well. The 653 field is for uncontrolled index terms and is already used by LC for subject concepts that don't have an authorized LC subject heading yet. 

I'm a big advocate for using both LCSH and tags. I think there's a place for both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If catalogers want to start adding tags now, there is a MARC field, the 653 field, that would work well. The 653 field is for uncontrolled index terms and is already used by LC for subject concepts that don&#8217;t have an authorized LC subject heading yet. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big advocate for using both LCSH and tags. I think there&#8217;s a place for both.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Spalding</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/1287#comment-64764</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Spalding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's no question catalogers work for users. But, as Niole said, nobody goes back to add the subjects. The great flowering of chick lit in the late 90s will never get the tag; it was a commonly-used term for at least seven years before the LC added it. The same pattern can be seen in subjets like Sociobiology, Memetics and many others. 

As for Cyberpunk, the only subject is Cyberpunk Culture, applied to exactly one work in the history of the LC. I'm not sure whether that's better or worse than never using it at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no question catalogers work for users. But, as Niole said, nobody goes back to add the subjects. The great flowering of chick lit in the late 90s will never get the tag; it was a commonly-used term for at least seven years before the LC added it. The same pattern can be seen in subjets like Sociobiology, Memetics and many others. </p>
<p>As for Cyberpunk, the only subject is Cyberpunk Culture, applied to exactly one work in the history of the LC. I&#8217;m not sure whether that&#8217;s better or worse than never using it at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/1287#comment-64640</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah - but are you going back and editing every book with crazy subject headings? No! Because that would be insanely time consuming. Which means those titles are still un-searchable with those terms.

That said - I'm a cataloger - I'm not against catalogers and I do catalog for the user - but I'm so limited that sometimes I get very very frustrated!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah - but are you going back and editing every book with crazy subject headings? No! Because that would be insanely time consuming. Which means those titles are still un-searchable with those terms.</p>
<p>That said - I&#8217;m a cataloger - I&#8217;m not against catalogers and I do catalog for the user - but I&#8217;m so limited that sometimes I get very very frustrated!!</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/1287#comment-64639</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subjects get added every day.
Chick lit (2006) and Cyberpunk culture (2001) are valid Library of Congress subjects.
Because catalogers are working for the users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subjects get added every day.<br />
Chick lit (2006) and Cyberpunk culture (2001) are valid Library of Congress subjects.<br />
Because catalogers are working for the users.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/1287#comment-64143</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do know that there are differences - but even AACR2 is bloated with rules that do nothing to help the user find information.  

My point above was whether we were cataloging for the users or not - like I said I haven't read the article or the RDA draft - so my rant was totally about cataloging for our users - meaning all aspects of cataloging - rules and subject analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do know that there are differences - but even AACR2 is bloated with rules that do nothing to help the user find information.  </p>
<p>My point above was whether we were cataloging for the users or not - like I said I haven&#8217;t read the article or the RDA draft - so my rant was totally about cataloging for our users - meaning all aspects of cataloging - rules and subject analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/1287#comment-64092</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful you don't conflate RDA (which will essentially be an updating of AACR2--descriptive bibliography with authorized name/title construction thrown into the mix) with subject analysis (LCSH, etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful you don&#8217;t conflate RDA (which will essentially be an updating of AACR2&#8211;descriptive bibliography with authorized name/title construction thrown into the mix) with subject analysis (LCSH, etc.)</p>
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