Comments on: The Web 2.0 Challenge http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266 Web 2.0 and programming tips from a library technology enthusiast, What I Learned Today... covers blogs, rss, wikis and more as they relate to libraries. Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:17:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: What I Learned Today… » Blog Archive » State of our ILS http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-56803 What I Learned Today… » Blog Archive » State of our ILS Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:22:45 +0000 http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-56803 [...] I’m not sure I understand the last question - but I read it like this, “What’s wrong with the current business model and how can we change it?” Right now libraries are required to buy the same main package and then have the option to add on additional features/packages. A quote from my blog: “Library 2.0 is about opening the library up and delivering content to our users where they are when they want it. We need to engage our users - which we are doing, but we need to do even more. Paul called for us to “disaggregate our monolithic library systems”. He explained this to us like this: Imagine a great big black box which a vendor sells you and instead of taking everything the vendor offers you take only the bits you need. Plugging in bits of other applications - maybe from other vendors - or that you have written yourself. Which is what I have the hardest time with - we have this ILS that was written for primarily academic libraries and we’re forced to buy the whole package and use only 1/3 of this - then out comes an add on that makes more sense for us - but we have to pay extra to get it - why not let us pay for the core and then pick and choose the other pieces we’ll need - customizing our catalogs to our specific institution? Paul says library systems should be like Lego, you can build the picture on the box or you can build something new and different.” (http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266) [...] [...] I’m not sure I understand the last question - but I read it like this, “What’s wrong with the current business model and how can we change it?” Right now libraries are required to buy the same main package and then have the option to add on additional features/packages. A quote from my blog: “Library 2.0 is about opening the library up and delivering content to our users where they are when they want it. We need to engage our users - which we are doing, but we need to do even more. Paul called for us to “disaggregate our monolithic library systems”. He explained this to us like this: Imagine a great big black box which a vendor sells you and instead of taking everything the vendor offers you take only the bits you need. Plugging in bits of other applications - maybe from other vendors - or that you have written yourself. Which is what I have the hardest time with - we have this ILS that was written for primarily academic libraries and we’re forced to buy the whole package and use only 1/3 of this - then out comes an add on that makes more sense for us - but we have to pay extra to get it - why not let us pay for the core and then pick and choose the other pieces we’ll need - customizing our catalogs to our specific institution? Paul says library systems should be like Lego, you can build the picture on the box or you can build something new and different.” (http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266) [...]

]]> By: Library 2.0 Roundup « Life as I Know It http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-15137 Library 2.0 Roundup « Life as I Know It Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:36:48 +0000 http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-15137 [...] The Web 2.0 Challenge - posted on March 26, 2006. [...] [...] The Web 2.0 Challenge - posted on March 26, 2006. [...]

]]> By: What I Learned Today… » Blog Archive » Shared Innovation http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-15059 What I Learned Today… » Blog Archive » Shared Innovation Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:55:48 +0000 http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-15059 [...] Today had the pleasure of getting to hear Paul Miller from Talis talk again. You may remember my enthusiastic post from CIL last year. His talk was not titled Shared Innovation - but it was a lot about Shared Innovation (and the talk had the same title as at CIL so I didn’t want to title another post with the same name ) [...] [...] Today had the pleasure of getting to hear Paul Miller from Talis talk again. You may remember my enthusiastic post from CIL last year. His talk was not titled Shared Innovation - but it was a lot about Shared Innovation (and the talk had the same title as at CIL so I didn’t want to title another post with the same name ) [...]

]]> By: VALIS » Blog Archive » Quick roundup http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-1061 VALIS » Blog Archive » Quick roundup Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:22:27 +0000 http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-1061 [...] What I Learned Today has a comprehensive write-up of a CIL2006 presentation by Paul Miller of Talis on opening up library catalogues, building a shared platform and sharing our data. Possibly optimistic, but Paul has a great vision: imagine if libraries could aggregate their data the way Amazon does - at the moment, we may have good data, but because each individual library is relatively small, that library’s data, on its own, isn’t very useful. (I hope I’m getting that right, seeing as I’m reporting at second hand). [...] [...] What I Learned Today has a comprehensive write-up of a CIL2006 presentation by Paul Miller of Talis on opening up library catalogues, building a shared platform and sharing our data. Possibly optimistic, but Paul has a great vision: imagine if libraries could aggregate their data the way Amazon does - at the moment, we may have good data, but because each individual library is relatively small, that library’s data, on its own, isn’t very useful. (I hope I’m getting that right, seeing as I’m reporting at second hand). [...]

]]> By: Nicole http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-1007 Nicole Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:40:05 +0000 http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-1007 Thanks a bunch! I will be watching for great things from Talis. Thanks a bunch! I will be watching for great things from Talis.

]]> By: Paul Miller http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-1006 Paul Miller Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:48:51 +0000 http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-1006 Nicole I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation, and found it useful. I've placed the MORI survey on the Talis site, and linked to it from http://blogs.talis.com/panlibus/archives/2006/03/cil2006_follow.html. And yes, Walt, I was joking. I hope, as Nicole suggests, the audience got that... Nicole

I’m glad you enjoyed the presentation, and found it useful.

I’ve placed the MORI survey on the Talis site, and linked to it from http://blogs.talis.com/panlibus/archives/2006/03/cil2006_follow.html.

And yes, Walt, I was joking. I hope, as Nicole suggests, the audience got that…

]]> By: Nicole http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-1005 Nicole Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:15:36 +0000 http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-1005 Thanks Scott! Thanks Scott!

]]> By: Scott http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-1002 Scott Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:07:32 +0000 http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-1002 Nicole, Probably not exactly the same as the CIE Publication you wanted a link for (aka, Understanding The Audience), but the MORI website at the following url: http://www.mori.com/polls/2004/cie.shtml Has a bit about how/why people trust online information that certainly gives insight into what "the audience" is looking for.... Scott Nicole,

Probably not exactly the same as the CIE Publication you wanted a link for (aka, Understanding The Audience), but the MORI website at the following url:

http://www.mori.com/polls/2004/cie.shtml

Has a bit about how/why people trust online information that certainly gives insight into what “the audience” is looking for….

Scott

]]> By: Nicole http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-991 Nicole Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:32:26 +0000 http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-991 He was jokingly correcting us - everyone was laughing - no one was offended. He was jokingly correcting us - everyone was laughing - no one was offended.

]]> By: walt http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-990 walt Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:01:53 +0000 http://www.web2learning.net/archives/266#comment-990 "he then asked “How else?” and there was a series of other answers that came from the audience and Paul told them they were wrong. The correct answer was Google," Tell me he didn't actually say that. It's one thing to make the nonsensical claim that Google's the only way people search. It's going way over the top to <i>correct</i> people who offer other means, particularly if anyone said, oh, Yahoo or MSN or Ask... Arggh... “he then asked “How else?” and there was a series of other answers that came from the audience and Paul told them they were wrong. The correct answer was Google,”

Tell me he didn’t actually say that. It’s one thing to make the nonsensical claim that Google’s the only way people search. It’s going way over the top to correct people who offer other means, particularly if anyone said, oh, Yahoo or MSN or Ask…

Arggh…

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