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	<description>Web 2.0 and programming tips from a library technology enthusiast, What I Learned Today... covers blogs, rss, wikis and more as they relate to libraries.</description>
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		<title>By: What I Learned Today&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Touched a Nerve</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-79211</link>
		<dc:creator>What I Learned Today&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Touched a Nerve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of you (over 1000 of you) have read my post on the State of our ILS. Well I recently found out that at least one of those people was from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What I Learned Today&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Multiple UIs for Our Catalogs</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-41170</link>
		<dc:creator>What I Learned Today&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Multiple UIs for Our Catalogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 13:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to be honest, I have only seem two library systems front and back (and soon one more) and they are III and Koha - so I don&#8217;t know if there are others out there that can also do what Koha can - but [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to be honest, I have only seem two library systems front and back (and soon one more) and they are III and Koha &#8211; so I don&#8217;t know if there are others out there that can also do what Koha can &#8211; but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bechs Webbrok &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bibliotekssytemer pÃ¥ den anden side af dammen</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-25066</link>
		<dc:creator>Bechs Webbrok &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bibliotekssytemer pÃ¥ den anden side af dammen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] LÃ¦s hele indlÃ¦gget &#8220;State of our ILS&#8221; pÃ¥ Engards weblog.     Publiceret af Morten Brunbjerg Bech Gemt i kategorien Biblioteker [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] LÃ¦s hele indlÃ¦gget &#8220;State of our ILS&#8221; pÃ¥ Engards weblog.     Publiceret af Morten Brunbjerg Bech Gemt i kategorien Biblioteker [...]</p>
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		<title>By: blyberg.net &#187; OPACs in the frying pan, Vendors in the fire</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-9168</link>
		<dc:creator>blyberg.net &#187; OPACs in the frying pan, Vendors in the fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] June 1 - Touched a Nerve - An account by Nicole Engard of a run-in with some III folks at IUG (Innovative Users Group meeting). Her post seems to be the one that kicked off this particular vendor roast. Essentially, She mentions an incident at this year&#8217;s Denver IUG in which a III employee expressed displeasure at her post, State of the ILS. I agree with Nicole that it&#8217;s probably a good thing that III employees are a little upset with some of these assessments. I&#8217;ll also stand by my comments on Nicole&#8217;s post&#8211;I&#8217;m among the first to admit that III can be infuriating to work with and I would not recommend it to any library interested in doing heavy customization. I&#8217;d caution all parties, however, to address the problems and not their emotions associated with this hot potato. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] June 1 &#8211; Touched a Nerve &#8211; An account by Nicole Engard of a run-in with some III folks at IUG (Innovative Users Group meeting). Her post seems to be the one that kicked off this particular vendor roast. Essentially, She mentions an incident at this year&#8217;s Denver IUG in which a III employee expressed displeasure at her post, State of the ILS. I agree with Nicole that it&#8217;s probably a good thing that III employees are a little upset with some of these assessments. I&#8217;ll also stand by my comments on Nicole&#8217;s post&#8211;I&#8217;m among the first to admit that III can be infuriating to work with and I would not recommend it to any library interested in doing heavy customization. I&#8217;d caution all parties, however, to address the problems and not their emotions associated with this hot potato. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What I Learned Today&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The OPAC discussion continues</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-3301</link>
		<dc:creator>What I Learned Today&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The OPAC discussion continues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John Blyberg has a great summary post of the fiasco that seems to have started with my State of our ILS post. I advise you to read it and see all the different sides of the story. I also left a pretty long comment on John&#8217;s post, so I&#8217;ll let you read my points over there. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] John Blyberg has a great summary post of the fiasco that seems to have started with my State of our ILS post. I advise you to read it and see all the different sides of the story. I also left a pretty long comment on John&#8217;s post, so I&#8217;ll let you read my points over there. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Squashing Criticism vs. Improving Products &#171; MaisonBisson.com</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-3209</link>
		<dc:creator>Squashing Criticism vs. Improving Products &#171; MaisonBisson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote yesterday of Nicole Engard&#8217;s comment that the ILS was about as open and flexible as a brick wall. Today I learned that the vendor of that ILS had tried to squash her public criticism. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wrote yesterday of Nicole Engard&#8217;s comment that the ILS was about as open and flexible as a brick wall. Today I learned that the vendor of that ILS had tried to squash her public criticism. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is the Writing on the Wall for the Integrated Library System? in Disruptive Library Technology Jester</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-3129</link>
		<dc:creator>Is the Writing on the Wall for the Integrated Library System? in Disruptive Library Technology Jester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While in UNC-CH for JCDL I&#8217;ve had occasion to rant with/at some people about the state of the integrated library system marketplace &#8212; including, of course, how we got into the spot we&#8217;re in and how we might get out of it (and those people were kind enough to engage in the rant). Along comes a series of posts from Casey Bisson and Nicole Engard ultimately pointing back to John Blyberg&#8217;s &#8220;ILS Customer Bill-of-Rights&#8221; that is singing the same tune. There still seems to be a desire for a solution from an existing vendor, and in fact that was part of counter-points brought up by some on the receiving end of the ILS-must-go rant. (Paraphrased: &#8216;No one can satisfy the need of a library like a library automation vendor&#8217; and &#8216;As libraries we&#8217;re not strong enough to take on the task of building the next ILS ourselves.&#8217;) Yet there does seem to be this mounting pressure to get control again over our data and how we present it to patrons. &#182; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While in UNC-CH for JCDL I&#8217;ve had occasion to rant with/at some people about the state of the integrated library system marketplace &mdash; including, of course, how we got into the spot we&#8217;re in and how we might get out of it (and those people were kind enough to engage in the rant). Along comes a series of posts from Casey Bisson and Nicole Engard ultimately pointing back to John Blyberg&#8217;s &#8220;ILS Customer Bill-of-Rights&#8221; that is singing the same tune. There still seems to be a desire for a solution from an existing vendor, and in fact that was part of counter-points brought up by some on the receiving end of the ILS-must-go rant. (Paraphrased: &#8216;No one can satisfy the need of a library like a library automation vendor&#8217; and &#8216;As libraries we&#8217;re not strong enough to take on the task of building the next ILS ourselves.&#8217;) Yet there does seem to be this mounting pressure to get control again over our data and how we present it to patrons. &#182; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The ILS Brick Wall &#171; MaisonBisson.com</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-3127</link>
		<dc:creator>The ILS Brick Wall &#171; MaisonBisson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nicole Engard last month posted about The State of our ILS, describing the systems as: IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d say itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a like the crazy cousin you have to deal with because heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s family! It doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t fit, we are a very open IT environment, we have applications all over that need to talk to each other nicely and the [ILS] is a brick wall preventing us from getting the information we need and sending the information weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d like. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nicole Engard last month posted about The State of our ILS, describing the systems as: IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d say itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a like the crazy cousin you have to deal with because heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s family! It doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t fit, we are a very open IT environment, we have applications all over that need to talk to each other nicely and the [ILS] is a brick wall preventing us from getting the information we need and sending the information weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d like. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The ILS Brick Wall &#171; MaisonBisson.com</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-3128</link>
		<dc:creator>The ILS Brick Wall &#171; MaisonBisson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nicole Engard last month posted about The State of our ILS, describing the systems as: IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d say itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a like the crazy cousin you have to deal with because heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s family! It doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t fit, we are a very open IT environment, we have applications all over that need to talk to each other nicely and the [ILS] is a brick wall preventing us from getting the information we need and sending the information weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d like. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nicole Engard last month posted about The State of our ILS, describing the systems as: IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d say itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a like the crazy cousin you have to deal with because heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s family! It doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t fit, we are a very open IT environment, we have applications all over that need to talk to each other nicely and the [ILS] is a brick wall preventing us from getting the information we need and sending the information weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d like. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.web2learning.net/archives/355&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Touched a Nerve&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.web2learning.net/archives/355" rel="nofollow">Touched a Nerve</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-1809</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 18:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re planning a redesign of our library site and catalog - and I&#039;m dreading it for this very reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re planning a redesign of our library site and catalog &#8211; and I&#8217;m dreading it for this very reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.web2learning.net/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-1808</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 17:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is poor HTML and CSS hidden from the people who can make a difference.&quot;

Well said!  I recently completed a redesign of my library&#039;s Innovative catalog.  As one who strives to use web standards, trying to get the catalog to do what I would like it to do has been an exercise in frustration.  I&#039;m glad to hear there are people out there who are promoting efforts to change things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is poor HTML and CSS hidden from the people who can make a difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well said!  I recently completed a redesign of my library&#8217;s Innovative catalog.  As one who strives to use web standards, trying to get the catalog to do what I would like it to do has been an exercise in frustration.  I&#8217;m glad to hear there are people out there who are promoting efforts to change things.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 16:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see that our efforts at Talis have not gone unnoticed.

Also it&#039;s not all brick wall on the III front, see my posting on Panlibus &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.talis.com/panlibus/archives/2006/05/shared_innovati.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shared Innovation - please!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see that our efforts at Talis have not gone unnoticed.</p>
<p>Also it&#8217;s not all brick wall on the III front, see my posting on Panlibus <a href="http://blogs.talis.com/panlibus/archives/2006/05/shared_innovati.html" rel="nofollow">Shared Innovation &#8211; please!</a></p>
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